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Problems With Queen Bees

Many years of problems and still no solution

I started beekeeping in 1963 and since 2002 I have been trying to highlight problems I have experienced with queens that I rarely saw until about the turn of the 21stcentury. At one stage I had 130 colonies for about 15 years, now 30-35. I am heavily involved with my local BKA, where I manage the teaching apiary with 40-60 colonies. I travel widely giving presentations, courses and demonstrations, so I speak to a lot of beekeepers and see a lot of colonies in different locations. The significance of this is that I see about 100 colonies on a regular basis and many others once only. I am not an inexperienced beekeeper who has seen something a few times, or is confused by what I see.

There are several problems and what may be associated problems, but they can largely be put into three groups as follows:-

  1. Young queens failing.
  2. Young queens being superseded.
  3. Queens "disappearing".

In addition, there are several other problems that I have seen regularly, some of which are mentioned later. They appeared about the same time and may be connected.

A little history

On this page I mention some incidents and dates, some of which are quite old. I do this to show that what I describe has been happening for a long time. In my earlier years of beekeeping there were very few problems with queens, then I started to observe several issues that I had rarely seen before. I spoke to many beekeepers, but few agreed there were problems. Looking back, I now see possible reasons for this. At the time, it was soon after varroa arrived and two things happened. Many of the older beekeepers, who had few problems, gave up and there was a large influx of new beekeepers who had little or no experience of how things were and only had a small number of colonies, so thought what they saw was normal.

What I write about below seems to be quite universal and is gradually becoming recognised by a growing number of beekeepers, not only in the U.K. but elsewhere, a few examples I mention here. I gave a presentation on the "Queen Problems" at the SICAMM conference that was held in Switzerland in September 2012. This was an international event, with beekeepers of all abilities and scientists from all over Europe. Afterwards, I had a queue of people wanting to speak to me, to tell me they had experienced exactly the same problems I had described. One French researcher said she was pleased she had heard my presentation, because she had been seeing the same problems for several years. She had discussed it with her colleagues who said she must have been doing something wrong! In June 2016 I gave two x 2 day Bee Improvement courses in the Hudson Valley area of New York State. I inspected about 100 colonies in 5 apiaries. There were problems with queens in each apiary. At the Apimondia conference in Montreal in September 2019, I spoke to two Canadian brothers who were commercial beekeepers. Their grandfather had started the business and told them that queens used to live for about 5 years, now they struggle to get them into the second year.

Closer to home, on March 3rd 2018 we inspected a colony at the Wisborough Green BKA teaching apiary. There were emergency cells in amongst worker brood. On 6th April 2018 I had exactly the same in one of my colonies at home. Neither of those colonies had been inspected since at least the previous autumn, so the queens couldn't have been killed or damaged. I am an experienced beekeeper and know what should happen, but a less experienced beekeeper probably wouldn't notice. Many beekeepers may not have inspected those colonies for another 4-6 weeks and assumed the queens had died in the autumn.

I have been in discussion with many other beekeepers, with an increasing number telling me they regularly have the same problems that I describe. They are widespread, yet there are still a significant number who say they haven't had problems. Why is this? I think there may be several reasons. I suspect that a few may feel shame, in the same way that some do when their bees become infected with foul brood. Many people have come into beekeeping since these problems with queens have appeared, so they don't recognise them as a problem, in very much the same way as beekeepers now accept varroa - they think what they see is the norm. I'm also surprised at the number of beekeepers who have been keeping bees a reasonable length of time who just don't know the "basics". These are the simple things we need to know in order to manage our bees reasonably well.

I often look back at what happened to bees in the wild before our intervention. I have a presentation "Honey Bees in the Wild - What Can we Learn From Them?" and the page on "Natural Honey Bees Nest", where I discuss their survival. Honey bees must have had to keep a fairly stable population based on the forces of natural selection. They could not have survived for long if they suffered the queen problems we see today, many of which are terminal for a colony.

What should happen?

A queen, depending on her prolificacy, should live for perhaps 3-5 years. I have had many that have managed the latter or beyond. I have rarely culled a queen due to age, as the type of non-prolific queens I prefer will normally perform well throughout their lives. Depending on the circumstances, a queen will swarm, or attempt to, perhaps 1-3 times during her life. Some won't at all, yet others, such as carniolans may swarm twice in the same year. She should be superseded in late summer or autumn and very often still be in the colony alongside her daughter the following spring. This is what happens naturally and is in all the old books.

What is happening now?

Young queens failing

This is very often in their first year, with many showing signs of failure within weeks of starting to lay, although initially they may appear to be performing well.

Very often, a young queen will lay drone eggs in worker cells for a short time before settling down, but I have seen many colonies where there are initially a few drones in worker cells, perhaps 4-6 per side of a comb. This raises concerns with me, as the situation usually worsens. I have seen as much as 25% of drones in worker cells. In one case the beekeeper, who had been keeping bees for several years, didn't recognise there was a problem. When I pointed out the single drones in worker cells he said "they are always like that"! It is easy to spot because drone cells are usually in blocks, yet when in worker cells they are usually single.

Young queens that are performing well should lay the correct number of eggs compared to the size of the colony, the time of year and the amount of food available.

If you see a full colony in the summer during a nectar flow and the queen is only laying on perhaps 2-4 frames, with the brood scattered, or the pattern of eggs is poor, when at the last inspection all appeared to be well, with brood across the box, then you know the queen is failing.

In my experience, once you first see the above, the queen usually only lasts about 6 weeks before being superseded, or she "disappears".

Young queens being superseded

This is often in their first year and I have regularly seen supersedure cells started before the young queen's first brood is sealed. Very often the brood appears to be good to my eye. The cutting out of these cells usually results in others being built and, if continued, my experience is the queen will usually fail or "disappear" in about 6 weeks.

Supersedure cells can be built anywhere on the frame or comb, not always on the face as we are often told. I find they are very often on the periphery of the broodnest and on several occasions I have seen them on combs with no brood on. Individually, supersedure cells look like swarm cells, but you can determine them by the quantity. I have a saying of "usually one, often two and occasionally three". Any more than that and they are likely to be swarm cells.

Colonies will swarm on supersedure cells, which is a major problem, especially if there is only one cell that is on a comb towards the outside of the brood box that has been missed, or you haven't gone that far because you haven't seen any queen cells, so aren't expecting any. On many occasions I have had a call from a beekeeper saying they have had a colony swarm that haven't got any queen cells. I advise inspecting the colony fully, lightly shaking the bees off frames, which often reveals one or more sealed supersedure cells.

When young queens, especially if not in full lay, are introduced into a full colony, the bees will often build supersedure cells, especially if they are introduced to a colony where the previous queen was laying well. This is common where they were mated in mini-nucs or have been banked for some time. In these cases I assume the bees realise the queen isn't up to speed, so try to replace her. The removal of these supersedure cells usually allows the colony to settle down. This is not what I'm indicating, as this is usually overcome when the queen comes into lay fully.

One thing that may be significant is that in a normal supersedure, the older queen often stays in the colony with her daughter for several weeks or months. They can often be seen together in the spring when there is an autumn supersedure. With supersedure of young queens during the summer as I describe here, this rarely happens, although I have seen two queens for a short time and on one occasion I had three queens in a hive on the same frame. They were an over-wintered previous year's queen, her daughter and granddaughter!

Queens "disappearing"

This is odd, as there seems to be no sensible explanation. I clip my queens and normally do 14 day inspections. At the Wisborough Green BKA teaching apiary we meet every 10 or 11 days. Good records are kept. You can inspect a colony and find no problems, with no supersedure cells and no problem with the quantity or visual quality of the brood. At the next inspection you can find the queen will have stopped laying instantly, but in about 50% of cases there will be emergency cells, the other 50%, nothing. A check on the age of the brood very rarely suggests the queen may have been damaged at the previous inspection.

The lack of emergency cells may be significant, as it suggests the queen has gone off lay, but stayed in the colony for several days, so there are no larvae young enough to be converted into emergency cells. This is one reason I think there might be some "interference" with pheromones (see below), as there are other unexplained things happening that are possibly pheromone related.

Other issues

At one time, a prime swarm could be collected, hived and left for the rest of the season to build up with little attention, as it would naturally. Prime swarms would usually have a fertile queen that would last at least until the end of the season, when perhaps she may be superseded. Currently, there are many more prime swarms with virgin queens than there used to be. Very often, those swarms with fertile queens will have the queen superseded, or she will fail soon after hiving, with drone laying being a major problem. I believe the former may be caused by the colony swarming on an emergency cell, where perhaps the queen has "disappeared", the latter where a colony has swarmed on a supersedure cell and the queen in the swarm has soon failed.

There are many reports of "queenless swarms". I suspect there is a queen there when the swarm issues, otherwise, what "holds" them? If a swarm issues without a queen, such as when she is clipped, the swarm soon returns home. My guess is she has already stopped laying before swarming and doesn't come into lay again. Why does she not lay? Is it a physical problem or do the bees not get the message that she needs feeding more? I have seen many swarms that have been hived, but are definitely queenless a few days later. I think the queen may have "disappeared" since the swarm was hived.

In late July 2016, a local beginner had a colony that had become queenless. It had been queenless for some time, so I found two large swarms for him. As it was late in the season, I hived them together by running them into the queenless hive. We put a board in front of the hive and chucked both swarms out together. At the same time another member wanted a queen to requeen a bad tempered colony, as a short term measure. I picked up one of the queens from the bees that were running up the board and introduced to the bad tempered hive, leaving the second queen to head the two swarms and queenless colony. Although both queens survived, they both failed shortly afterwards.

Queen introduction is nowhere near as reliable as it once was. At one time you could take a queen out of a colony, put another queen in a cardboard matchbox or a queen cage with 3-4 workers and place her in the colony immediately. If you went back 24 hours later you could release her, or she would have been released by the bees and there would be no further problems. It was almost unheard of to see emergency or supersedure cells a few days later, as is now often the case. For some strange reason some colonies refuse to be requeened. On many occasions I have tried several queens, queen cells, combs of eggs and larvae and they flatly refuse to accept any opportunity of a queen.

On several occasions I have seen both swarm and emergency cells in a colony at the same time. Unless there has been a manipulation by the beekeeper, such as the queen and some swarm cells removed, this shouldn't happen. Surely the worker bees are getting conflicting messages.

In the past, a test comb was very reliable, but in the last few years I have come across several instances where the colony is clearly queenless and they won't build emergency cells (or accept queen cells).

At an apiary meeting of the Wisborough Green BKA on Wednesday 25th June 2014 we inspected 28 colonies and 10 of them had at least one of the problems I mention above. Several colonies had queens laying, yet there were emergency cells in the colonies. The following day, I inspected another and found that had a problem too. This is not a small sample and within shouting distance of 40% of colonies with problems. This is not normal.

In 2022 I delivered ten all-day "Bee Improvement and Queen Rearing" courses for BIBBA in 4 apiaries, in North Wales, Mid Wales, West Sussex and Yorkshire, so some distance apart and with different circumstances, management and conditions. There were queen problems in three of them, in one apiary the first two colonies I opened had problems, in the first the queen had "disappeared" and the colony had sealed emergency cells, in the second there was one supersedure cell, where the queen appeared to have been laying well.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind there are problems and at a guess there may be several causes. The really sad part is that despite there being widespread problems, nobody seems to want to do anything about it. It has been suggested the lack of historical information is the issue, but there are parts of the world where I don't believe there are problems, so there may be a natural control population. In my opinion there is an excellent opportunity for a research establishment to do some meaningful research that may help all beekeepers. I probably know more than anyone on the subject and I would be more than willing to help by providing material and freely giving my time and pay my own expenses. I have detected some resistance from scientists to investigate and I don't know the reason. I wonder if they may have asked beekeepers in "influential" positions and been told there isn't a problem. Perhaps not all scientists are beekeepers. I don't know, but it is certainly frustrating when the problems have such a long history.

I don't know how many times I have heard that queens aren't getting mated properly because of bad weather. In my experience the same problems arise when the weather is good, as it was in 2022, but there have still been problems at a similar level to other years. I don't think we understand enough about mating in general to make sweeping statements like this. I understand that all bees are capable of forming drone assemblies, but only the native bee Amm is capable of what is called Apiary Vicinity Mating (AVM), so perhaps the answer might be to use native bees.

The success rate of getting a queen mated has reduced considerably. At one time, once you saw a queen cell that had been vacated you could leave a colony for 2-3 weeks and when you went back there was usually good brood. The usual answer if a colony becomes queenless after emergence is the "birds" took them on their mating flights. I'm not buying that one. I think it may happen in a very small number of cases, but not at the rate it is now. Just think of the number of bees there are likely to be on the wing when a queen goes out to mate. The mathematical chances of a queen being taken are very low. I strongly suggest everyone looks at the wings of virgin queens, as there are now a significant number that emerge with deformed wings. This varies from tiny stubs to almost full wings that are crumpled at the tips. I think they may emerge from the hive to mate, but don't get airborne. This suggests a possible virus problem, so perhaps we should look in that area. At the Wisborough Green BKA teaching apiary during one of the previously mentioned BIBBA courses in 2022 we saw three queens emerge from queen cells with deformed wings.

What is the significance for beekeepers?

The problems I mention are very common, to the point where I very often see them when I visit others or inspect their bees. On many occasions I have had people say they don't have problems, then I find them in their bees with them watching! It is easy to look for "obvious" reasons, like bad weather or a queen has been damaged during a previous inspection. Beekeepers, especially beginners, shouldn't think they have done something wrong, as this is very unlikely. I think it's important for beekeepers to recognise problems. Look at the colony and see things that are different in the same way you would spot disease. Although not as serious as some diseases, most of them can result in a dead colony. I am convinced that many winter losses are caused by queen failure.

I strongly suggest that when a queen is expected to emerge, the beekeeper looks for the virgin queen, to see that she has complete wings, but do it when she is unlikely to be on a flight. Also, look around the hive for a small knot of bees about the size of a golf ball containing a queen with deformed wings. If she can't fly, she can't mate.

When one of these problems appears, the beekeeper often needs certain management techniques to help them, such as queen/cell introduction, test comb, uniting, etc, so it is best if beginners learn how to perform these techniques early on.

What are the reasons?

I am an engineer by trade, not a scientist, so I will try to leave the answers to others. Amongst the more sensible suggestions that have been made to me, though not in any order are:-

Some of my guesswork.

By speaking to many beekeepers it seems there is a possibility that the increase in viruses may be an issue, especially if queens are heavily infected. Perhaps infection is through their larval or adult feeding, or during mating where viruses may be transmitted by drones.

I am an observant beekeeper and with my engineers mentality I use a bit of logic. What follows is something I have been thinking about for some time. I must stress it is no more than a non - scientific theory, but please feel free to pick as many holes in it as you like.

Many of the problems could be pheromone related. I have done no reading on them, but with my practical approach I see a pheromone as a substance that is made up of several components, each one having a different percentage of the whole. I'm guessing that if one or more components has a different amount than it should have, or is missing, it gives a different message to the worker bees.

Pheromones are chemicals and chemicals can be altered, something we all know from our school science lessons. My thinking is there may be some sort of "interference" with the pheromones, perhaps with chemicals that are coming in from outside the hive, or those administered to the colony. If that modifies the pheromone, it may give the wrong message to the worker bees. I hope I explain myself adequately.

If the above is close to being a possibility, it may explain some of the things that are happening with queens, such as those mentioned below.

I accept the above is conjecture, but in the absence of any other explanation, let's chuck it in the pot with everything else. One thing is for sure and that is it's a better bet than keep blaming the weather and birds!

I know this won't affect all beekeepers, but here is another suggestion. In a natural bees nest there are usually holes in combs. I reckon these are created by bees to improve communication and travel around the colony. My guess is that queens use these to get round the hive to spread footprint pheromone and give more bees the chance of taking queen substance. Many beekeepers use large frames and discard those with holes in. An increasing number are now using plastic foundation that bees can't chew holes in. Does this allow the queen to spend a long time, perhaps an hour or so on one large surface, preventing a free flow of chemical messages, so bees on combs where the queen has been absent for some time may think their queen is failing?

Why has there been little or no progress?

I have tried desperately hard to make beekeepers aware of the above problems over a long time and I have become very frustrated at the lack of progress. I have tried to highlight them, but I have experienced negative reactions from people in influential positions who I think should know better. Quite frankly some simply don't believe me, probably because there is nothing in their favourite book, so dismiss what I tell them that I have seen with my own eyes. I have come to suspect that some well known beekeepers may not be as knowledgeable or observant as their status in beekeeping suggests. The cynic in me wonders how often they inspect their own bees (if they have any), or if they understand what they are seeing.

On several occasions I have been told by beekeepers they didn't have a problem, but when I ask to look at their bees, I often see some. As always, when some people don't know much about a subject they rubbish it, ignore it or try to discredit it. I have been asked to provide proof there were previously no problems, but who records things when they go well?

The negativity or lack of knowledge of some beekeepers probably has a bearing on it. I have been openly told that the reason I have problems is because I'm a bad beekeeper, which I find unhelpful and offensive. I am doing the same as I have for well over 50 years and I'm more than happy to inspect colonies in front of anyone.

What can be done?

I think beekeepers can do quite a bit on their own, but it needs to be in an organised way, not a scattergun approach. I am not a biologist and know little about anatomy of bees, but I think beekeepers who have an interest in microscopy can dissect queens to study spermatheca and ovaries. If there is variation from the normal healthy organs this could provide data for researchers to take further. Surely any abnormalities could be tested for diseases, viruses, poor sperm, etc.

My thinking is that queens are easy to produce in fairly high numbers during the summer, so could be used in several ways, as virgin and fertile queens. I am prepared to do this myself and I think I know a number of queen rearers throughout the country who would also be prepared to provide material.

There are several locations that are still varroa free and to the best of my knowledge have no problems, so queens reared there could also be tested to see if they have problems. That should tell us if varroa is likely to be a problem or not.

For the sake of bees and beekeeping, I hope someone can at least do some exploratory work. I'm happy to provide the information and advice. I also give presentations on the issues, so if you want to know more please contact your local BKA secretary and forward my presentation list.

I have some good news on this! There has been some research work done in Canada. See here. I'm please that it shows there really are problems and they aren't just confined to my hives as some people think. It might also show that I'm not a bad beekeeper after all.

Roger Patterson.

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